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18 November 2004 @ 7pm

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Movies, Politics

The Dude Prophetizes

One of my favorite movies of all time is The Big Lebowski. It’s a brilliant comedy that’s endlessly quotable and has some of the most memorable characters in recent film history. There is so much going on in this movie, that I could take up your whole browser trying to summarize it, so I’m just going to have to assume at this point that you’ve seen it. If you haven’t, go rent it, watch it and come back to this web page. It ain’t going nowhere.

One of the themes of the movie is unchecked aggression. Some direct parallels are made between Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait and The Dude’s harassment by Jackie Treehorn (his goons pee on The Dude’s rug). At one point, The Dude’s stoned brain rattles off a line from something he had overheard on TV: “this aggression will not stand.” It’s a line from George H.W. Bush’s speech about Kuwait that the Dude heard as he bought some half & half from Ralph’s grocery store. The Dude is so broke, incidentally, that he actually has to write a check for $0.69.

Watching The Dude try to piece together all the events of his life is fun to watch. He is such a burnout that his synapses don’t always connect and he stumbles as he tries to solve the mysteries of the storyline. It’s not entirely unlike watching George W Bush try to make his way through a press conference. Which brings me to Iraq again and our recent history with that country.

At this point the reasons for America’s war with Iraq are so obscured by excuses and lies and manipulations that I sometimes feel like The Dude trying to piece it all together. 42% of Americans believe Iraq was DIRECTLY involved with the attacks of 9/11 (Newsweek poll from Sept ’04, found on this page). Almost half the country believes something that has repeatedly been proven to be false. What the hell?

So, what am I talking about? Oh, yeah, the Big Lebowski, Iraq, Kuwait, The Dude, 9/11, etc. Well, imagine my surprise when it was pointed out to me today that there is a prophetic message in the Big Lebowski that ties all of this together (kind of like The Dude’s rug).

Remember earlier when The Dude writes that check for $0.69 at Ralph’s? Well, check out the date on that check:

Photo from The Big Lebowski

September 11, 1991. Exactly ten years before the attacks. Coincidence? Yes. Weird? Definitely. I need to go sit down for a while. Mind if I do a J?

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56 Comments

Posted by
adam
2 December 2004 @ 4pm

Yeah, I noticed that too. Bizarre.


Posted by
YL
24 December 2004 @ 12pm

The Dude was involved in the attacks of 9/11?


Posted by
Simon
24 December 2004 @ 2pm

Directly involved? On another note, isn’t 42 the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything (as per Douglas Adams?)


Posted by
Joel
10 March 2005 @ 9pm

That doesn’t explain why Donny has to die! Where does Donny fit into this lunacy? Why does Donny have to die?


Posted by
buckeroo
10 March 2005 @ 10pm

You guys are reading way too much into this. The fact is, 69 is the answer to it all, not 9/11. If you still don’t get it, let me quote from the 60′s of which the dude is representative:

Make love not war. (69 not 9/11)


Posted by
Vince
20 March 2005 @ 11am

very very strange : Is this your homework Larry ?


Posted by
miles
20 March 2005 @ 7pm

you think the carpet pissers did this?


Posted by
adam
7 April 2005 @ 1am

obviously some kind of eastern thing…


Posted by
Obi
8 April 2005 @ 4am

If you notice also, several times throughout the movie lines come to his conscious that he has overheard somewher before, like “This aggresion will not stand” and “In the parlance of our times”

If you fast forward the movie using the chapter fast forward, you will notice the chapter before Donnie dies, he rolls a ball that should be a strike, however one pin remains , (And if you slow motion it you will notice there is some metal bar under it keeping it standing) but I digress, that slow motion sceen is foreshadowing of what is to come to ‘our sweet prince’ Donnie


Posted by
bob
11 April 2005 @ 1pm

Speaking of burnouts stumbling while attempting to solve a mystery… September 11, 1991 was the date Bush gave that speech. Duh.


Posted by
LMB
25 June 2005 @ 10am

Yes – that makes sense! “September 11, 1991 was the date Bush gave that speech” — that aggression will not stand, man!


Posted by
Derek
31 July 2005 @ 12pm

Uh, radical Islamic terrorists were blowing up other people and places before the Iraq war and completely unrelated to the Iraq war. Bali, Africa, India, Phillipines, Indonesia, places all over the world. Your linkage of 9/11 with the Iraq war illustrates that either a) you don’t have a grasp of the global and historical events of radical Islamic terrorism or b) you have swallowed a healthy dose of anti-American propaganda. None, I repeat none, of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqis. Unfortunately, the terror war began before Iraq, exists independent of Iraq and will continue after Iraq. The sooner you stop blaming America for the world’s ills, the sooner you will realize what we are truly facing. That, or maybe you should take a trip to one of the Islamic nations. All the best..


Posted by
tim
31 July 2005 @ 1pm

Uh, who are you talking to, Derek?


Posted by
JohnSki
6 August 2005 @ 1am

Yeah that’s nuts!


Posted by
ian c
6 September 2005 @ 3am

I thought that speech was given on the 12th of sept 1991. Either that or the government changed the record


Posted by
Christine
25 October 2005 @ 10pm

Yes, I noticed that date on the cheque too. I submitted that piece of trivia to the Internet Movie Datbase but the bastards never published it.


Posted by
charley hardman
8 January 2006 @ 1pm

cowards! . . . weaklings! . . . bums.


Posted by
Leo
19 July 2006 @ 1pm

Fuck it dude…lets go bowling


Posted by
Mike
13 August 2006 @ 4am

Tomorrow is already the 10th.


Posted by
Joe
26 September 2006 @ 3pm

Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990. U.S. troops moved in on August 7. The UN passed it’s resolution authorizing force on August 29 if Iraw did not withdraw by January 15, 1991. Operation Desert Storm began on January 17. On February 27, 1991, Bush declared Kuwait liberated. On March 10 troops began to move out of Iraq. There is no way that Bush gave that speech as late as September of 1991.
More importantly, the check is post-dated. As Mike pointed out above, Marty, presumably within a couple days, tells the Dude that “tomorrow is already the tenth.”
The use of 9/11 is a reference to The Big Sleep.


Posted by
Mike
3 November 2006 @ 2pm

Hey, I love this movie, and noticed that too.
Odd, however, that Bush 41 is on in the background . . . “this aggression will not stand, this aggression against Kuwait.” U.S. policy in the Middle East implicated. Now if anything else on that check comes up in current events, I’ll be upset the Fed’s didn’t look into this. Could UBL have watched this and been like, hey, that as a good a date as any? After all, the Dude represents everhting Muslims hate about our country, sin, adultery, drugs, (Walter is Jewish (at least in name), powerful women (maude) . . . just a few thoughts.


Posted by
mr. lebowski
12 November 2006 @ 1am

I am mr. lebowski, this movie is actually a biography of my life. I wrote and directed the movie, and I personally had the Dude carry out 9/11. everyone says it was towel heads in a plane, but really it was a big bowling ball.

now that the joke is out of the way, i have one word, hopfully spelled correctly, that is the answer to this entire thread

illuminati!!

dont know what that is? google. thats how i found this page.


Posted by
Walter
14 November 2006 @ 7pm

–this affects all of us, man!


Posted by
melbourne achiever
30 November 2006 @ 6am

Whats even weirder is that the date was actually the eight of september when he postdated the check. “tommorrows already the tenth dude”, so why did the dude decide to postdate his check to exactly 10 years prior to 9/11, all I can say is “far out”


Posted by
stereoman
3 December 2006 @ 4pm

Good points, Joe (#20). But hey, here’s another way of looking at this post-dating mystery. Given that A) the Dude had already charmed the register clerk into submission, and given his own casual disregard for chronological time (“is this . . . ah, what day is this?”), he might easily have been post dating the check not just a few days, but a year, a month, and six days. Bush I made the famous “aggression” remark on Aug 5, 1990.

Which leads to the mystery within the mystery. Sure, we can relate to the Dude post-dating a check well over a year, but what about the Coen Brothers? They wrote this shit. They dreamed up the date. The film was released in 1998. What could they have been thinking when they dreamed up the date on the check?


Posted by
Talder
4 December 2006 @ 1pm

Come on – the date was a frickin’ coincidence!


Posted by
Bob
1 January 2007 @ 1am

Do some research — September 11, 1991 was the date on which former President Bush gave his “New World Order” speech!


Posted by
The Time Traveller
3 February 2007 @ 2pm

This is what happens when you bomb a country in the ass.


Posted by
Tap Duncan
16 February 2007 @ 11am

I don’t know what’s with all this aggresion, man. Just abide, dudes and dudesses. Just abide. I do.


Posted by
Max
16 February 2007 @ 12pm

Actually, Bob, check your research – the speech was made Sept. 11, 1990.


Posted by
Tom Bridewell
25 April 2007 @ 6pm

I love the Coen brothers, but this movie is not a success, although I appreciate your efforts to painfully parse out some hidden greater meaning. I tend to think the sum total of this movie’s “meaning” is pretty much right there on the thin surface.


Posted by
Donnie, who loved bowling
30 April 2007 @ 3pm

Prophetizes?

moron.


Posted by
tim
30 April 2007 @ 3pm

What, you didn’t get my brilliant comedic master stroke of replacing ‘abide’ with ‘prophetize‘ in the famous catch phrase? Your loss, Donnie.


Posted by
Dan
11 June 2007 @ 1pm

It is all about eagle rcok guys i do not know why it freaks me out eagel rock is next to pasadeana the othe bowling ale

god help us


Posted by
Walter
4 October 2007 @ 12pm

Forget about the fukin toe !!!!


Posted by
Duderino
16 October 2007 @ 1pm

The footage on the TV at Ralph’s was not from the New World Order speech, it was from a press junket on the South Lawn with Bush arriving back at the White House from Camp David. The date was August 5, 1990.


Posted by
dan
24 October 2007 @ 8pm

like the twighlight Zone

the speach was not september 11


Posted by
George Black
27 October 2007 @ 9am

George Bush gave his speech about new world order
on Sept 11 ,1991. Ten years later to the day 911?

The same day maybe Coincidence?

I would like to find out what time George Bush senior
gave his new world speech and also find out what time
the Trade Towers were hit????

Maybe the exact same time and that would not be coincidence….Could anyone find oput what time George gave his speech in sept. 11 1991.


Posted by
Treehorn
6 January 2008 @ 8pm

………..so what someone here is trying to say is, as the Dude was writing that check on Sept. 11 1991, he was trying to convey that Nihilists were planning to blow up Ralphs Supermarket 10 years before the terrorist attacks ??


Posted by
Treehorn
6 January 2008 @ 8pm

OK, now I get it, this agression will not stand, just mark it zero.
Sorry.


Posted by
Brian Diehl
9 March 2008 @ 11pm

Odd thing about the date (and here is where I prove myself as a Lebowsgeek); Bush gave his “this aggression willnot stand” speech on August 5, 1990 – not 1991. So, it looks like the Dude has SERIOUSLY post-dated his check!

Brian
Check out Actors’ Inequity


Posted by
Jesse
27 April 2008 @ 7am

just think if it really was an inside job by our shadow government than they most likely have an even better one on the way. The New World Order is here don’t believe if you want but don’t be too stupid or you may lose all our freedom’s to the elite who run this world.All in the name of the war on terror for our own good right?


Posted by
Sandy
28 May 2008 @ 10pm

I think I love you, dude….


Posted by
Dr Strangeglove
30 May 2008 @ 3pm

damn, that’s strange


Posted by
randy
17 August 2008 @ 2pm

Hey man I got a beverage here.


Posted by
walter
16 October 2008 @ 2pm

Donnie, you’re out of your element.


Posted by
moose
1 March 2009 @ 1pm

when I pointed out that fact about the date on his check to my buds’, I was like, are we going to split hairs hear? Am I wrong?


Posted by
donnie
2 March 2009 @ 12pm

i am the walrus


Posted by
robean
21 April 2009 @ 12am

“Fucking Nazi’s, nothing every changes.”


Posted by
ashley
5 June 2009 @ 10pm

All u r talking about is the check! What about the scene, his dream! Where Saddam handed him the shoes, and then there were the subliminal twin towers. I need to watch it, or I guess youtube it again, but I know the shoes were showing 9 and 11 if I remember correctly too. youtube it!


Posted by
Rusty
7 September 2009 @ 7pm

The account number on the check adds up to 42. Bush 41 appears at exactly 3:22 on the time code. The film begins on the early morning of Aug.6/90, 24 years after groundbreaking at WTC, Aug.5/66.


Posted by
watl
3 February 2010 @ 1pm

yeah, and? sept 11 1991 was the date when bush senior made that speech. of course its going to be the date on the check. (

and it was also the date of a cia-funded chile coupe in the 70′s)..


Posted by
Beachhead
4 March 2010 @ 2pm

All you douchebags parsing this BS and the fact is that the Coen Bros. f__d it up!! Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990 and Bush 41 made those comments in 1990, not 1991 like the Dude’s check says. You might say, “So much for your conspiracy theories,” but I would say, “That’s just like your opinion, man.”


Posted by
Gonzo Gibbie
14 August 2011 @ 11pm

The issue here isn’t whether ‘The Dude’ post dated the check, nor is it what date Papa Bush gave what speech… To those who choose to dismiss the check’s date as mere coincidence, I must point out how NOTHING happens in a film without the Director wanting it to happen, based upon the vision of the Writers (the Coen Brothers). The FACT that the check’s date does NOT match the historical date of Bush’s speech in the background calls attention to a seemingly trivial matter — the check’s 9/11 date — which I feel was done on purpose. That’s right — the mistake was made intentionally! T’was a subversive act against our oppressive Government, just as the Sixties Radicals, ‘The Chicago Seven’ or ‘The Seattle Seven’ might have done. The Jeff Lebowski character is based upon a real life Sixties activist, Jeff Dowd, who was once a member of the ‘Seattle Seven’ and now is a Hollywood Producer.

Article in Slate: http://www.slate.com/id/2199811/


Posted by
Nick
22 January 2012 @ 4am

This is the best troll ever.


Posted by
Walter
29 May 2012 @ 11am

Shut the fuck up Donnies! You are out of your element!

Here is the original video from 1990-08-05
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/bonus-video/presidents-policing-bush/


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